Posts by No Apologies

Its a terrible way to raise a kid! Let's see, you can't associate with school mates cause they're "worldly", you stand out like a sore thumb because of not celebrating holidays, birthdays, saluting the flag, etc. Yeah that's great.

Then as you move on to high school, lets see, no choir, no band, (too many religious-themed events) no going out for sports, really, no extra-curricular activities. Then try to explain to your counselors how you are not interested in college, nope, you are going to be a full-time minister for Jehover!!!

What gets me is that like probably a lot of us here, I was a second-gen JW, so my parents( who grew up as more-or-less normal Lutherans) had no idea how bad their crazy religion messed up our childhood. Of course they drilled it into us, how we were "different" and we should be proud of being a lil JW in front of our class. Yeah...

And then of course, just dreading the possibility of encountering a classmate while out in service!!!

Yeah raising a kid as a JW, its really great!

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Another news story today on abuse settlements...

by flipper in

a friend of mr f heard a story on kfbk sacramento radio news a little after 8 this am...3 people in woodland ca received their settlement money, and 7,000 others have come forward with accusations.

i can't find it anywhere - does anyone know about this?

danny?

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Seeker,

This line is odd: "It is interesting that when alive Pat Garza alleged that when a District Overseer in Los Angeles, the Watchtower Society boss Ted Jaracz molested her and other kids in a Satanic, ritual manner,...

Just to clarify, Pat Garza alleged that, back when Jaracz was serving as a District Overseer in LA, he molested her and others...

I'm not saying that I believe or disbelieve her claims, I just wanted to make it clear what the original poster was trying to say.

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Anyone's doctor force their hand about being listed as a JW?

by Mysterious in

i remember when i was in high school i went to the doctor about something completely unrelated to surgery or blood and as a matter of updating my medical records he made a point of listing me as a jw on it.

he never asked me if he could / should and i was in no position to object in front of my mother without explaining myself.

not to mention i would look wishy washy about my faith in front of the doctor.

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Scully:

The fact remains that a child of high school age (actually it's 12 years old here) in my jurisdiction (and in most of the free world) can, if they so wish, go to a free clinic and get birth control or arrange for an abortion or get counselling on STDs or safe sexual practices.

12 years old? That's insane! And I don't think I alone in thinking that.

As to your hypothetical situations, they are just that, hypothetical. As all pro-abortionists do, you throw out the "what about rape victims?" straw man. Let's get real here. You're saying that when your 12 year old child is raped, the best outcome is for the child to keep the parents from finding out about the rape, go and get an abortion, all without the parents ever finding out. Yeah, that makes total sense. If I was the parent in this hypothetical situation, I would hope to God my child would come to me, so that I could do whatever I could to help her recover from this awful situation. If she was pregnant, again, I would want to be there for her, and depending on all the circumstances, it may be that abortion is the right choice. But why should a child have to make this kind of decision on their own???

As for your brother, I have to believe that if he wanted blood, the doctors would have found a way to give him blood. If they can get a court order to give blood to a teenager who doesn't want it, they certainly could do it for a teen who did.

Ultimately, it is not the place of a physician or a nurse to disclose confidential medical information to a parent that a minor child wishes to keep confidential. We can encourage a minor child to disclose to their parents, and we can be there to help them do it, but it's not my place, nor is it a doctor's place, to betray patient confidences.

By the way, who pays for the contraceptives and abortions for these kids? Let me guess, the parents get a bill with no explanation of what its for. What a great system.

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Anyone's doctor force their hand about being listed as a JW?

by Mysterious in

i remember when i was in high school i went to the doctor about something completely unrelated to surgery or blood and as a matter of updating my medical records he made a point of listing me as a jw on it.

he never asked me if he could / should and i was in no position to object in front of my mother without explaining myself.

not to mention i would look wishy washy about my faith in front of the doctor.

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Scully,

I totally disagree with your post. First of all, the doctor did nothing wrong. As far as he knew, both Mysterious and her mother were both JW, and so he noted it on her chart. I can't even understand why this is an issue. How many kids are going to have a problem with this???? A doctor is not going to pull every patient away from their parents to check their feelings about their parents religion.

If you were in high school you certainly had the right to discuss any medical issue with the doctor privately, without your mother there. You have the right to go in privately for any number of things, including discussing your menstrual cycle, birth control, abortion information, etc.

We're talking about a minor here. What rights are you talking about? What about the parents rights? They have the right to decide what's best for their child. And who are you to keep information from a parent?

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Anyone's doctor force their hand about being listed as a JW?

by Mysterious in

i remember when i was in high school i went to the doctor about something completely unrelated to surgery or blood and as a matter of updating my medical records he made a point of listing me as a jw on it.

he never asked me if he could / should and i was in no position to object in front of my mother without explaining myself.

not to mention i would look wishy washy about my faith in front of the doctor.

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I wondered if she was a witness and I just didn't know her because I have been away so long. Oh, well, too bad. It's not her business anyway.

Be careful!!! If by chance she is a JW, then rest assured she will absolutely make it her business!!! She has your name, and she knows that you will now accept a blood transfusion. The elders must be made aware of this, privacy regulations notwithstanding.

(For what its worth, I will add this anecdote: my ex-wife (a loyal dub) used to work at a hospital as an admitting clerk. She was well aware that at some point she could face a situation that would challenge her loyalty to the org vs. her employer's privacy policies. To give her credit, she admitted that she would have a hard time violating confidentiality, and that she might even refuse to divulge information to the elders, which, for a loyal dub, is saying a lot.)

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Anyone's doctor force their hand about being listed as a JW?

by Mysterious in

i remember when i was in high school i went to the doctor about something completely unrelated to surgery or blood and as a matter of updating my medical records he made a point of listing me as a jw on it.

he never asked me if he could / should and i was in no position to object in front of my mother without explaining myself.

not to mention i would look wishy washy about my faith in front of the doctor.

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oops! double post!!

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Some photos of Rochester, Minnesota

by Abandoned in

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i was out and about yesterday and i took a few photos of my home town, rochester, minnesota.. .

this statue honors the two brothers who founded the world famous mayo clinic.. .

this is rochester's art center.

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That top picture, of the statue of Mayo Brothers, of course includes the Rochester Civic Center in the background, where many of us Minnesota/Iowa/Wisconsin exJWs attended many a District Convention over the last two decades.

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